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Podšišanih loknica i u čednom izdanju, u trapericama i majici, Nic Offer mi je poklonio 10 minuta svoga vremena uoči nastupa sa svojim bendom !!! na ovogodišnjem T-mobile INmusic festivalu. Naviru mi sjećanja na ekscentičnog Nica koji u kratkim hlačicama i razuzdanim plesnim koracima rasplamsava strasti hipnotizirane i zaluđene madridske publike dok !!! izvode jedan od najenergičnijih, psihodeličnijih i nadasve omamljujućih koncerata koje sam ikada doživjela.

Tri godine nakon tog iskustva, Nick djeluje smirenije, pitomije, kao ublažena i cenzurirana verzija samoga sebe. No, frizura i outfit nisu jedini noviteti u životu ovog (nekada?) ekscentričnog frontmena. !!! su izdali novi album, promijenili članove benda i čini se i povukli kočnice i smanjili brzinu naleta na koncertnu publiku. Njihov nastup te večeri nije bio loš, ali nije bio ni fenomenalan. A upravo riječ “fenomenalno” je ona koju izustim svaki puta kada opisujem svoja prijašnja iskustva sa njihovih nastupa. No, vratimo se na intervju.

Kako smo unaprijed bili upozoreni na nepostavljanje pitanja u vezi preminulog člana benda i promjene postave, u (blic) razgovoru smo se osvrnuli na njihov najnoviji album, Billya Idola, Thoma Yorkea, Hemendex i pokoju drugu temu koja je iskrsnula u laganom chit-chatu.

Hello…ovo izgleda kao svojevrsna “intervju špica”…da li te uznemiruje održavati intervjue na takav način? Kao na tvorničkoj traci…
Umm…zapravo i ne. Naviknut sam već na to. Ne bi vjerovala što mi rade…Odrađivao sam i po 12 sati intervjua, bez prestanka.

Gdje se to dogodilo, u Japanu?
U Berlinu, zapravo. U Japanu to bude po nekoliko dana intervjua. Jednom smo 4 dana za redom samo intervjue odrađivali.

Ovo je vaš drugi posjet Zagrebu, kakve su vaše impresije?
Da…krenuo sam u šetnju ovo popodne. Pokušao sam se izgubiti…

Pokušao si se izgubiti ili si se izgubio?
(smijeh) Ne, ne…dobro je izgubiti se ponekada. To mi je i bila namjera jer obično vidiš samo turističke lokacije svih mjesta koje posjetiš, tako da se moraš udaljiti od njih…

Ahh, razumijem…znači, htio si vidjeti onu ružnu i mračnu stranu Zagreba?
Točno!

Dobra strana Zagreba je ta da ne moraš hodati dugo da to otkriješ!
(smijeh) Da, čak sam vidio i beskućnika!

Jesu li festivali dobra prilika da se vide drugi bendovi?
Tek sam noćas stigao ovamo, ali nadam se da ću vidjeti Billy Idola.

Baš sam razgovarala sa Rise Against koji su baš uzbuđeni da vide Billya!
Sinoć sam svome toncu rekao “To je Billy Idol!” To je poprilično velika stvar. Najvjerojatnije će biti sladunjav i sve to, ali mislim da je jedan on onih tipova koji još uvijek žele napraviti dobar show.

Misliš?
Da…Vidjet ćemo, vidjet ćemo…ako me vidiš nakon koncerta, možemo izmijeniti naše impresije.

Ahh, cool…zvuči kao super ideja. Ja se ipak bojim da će se ponoviti iskustvo koje sam stekla sa bendovima poput The Fall, The Pixies…gdje sam stalno mislila “neeeee….zaaaašto?”, jednostavno onaj osjećaj “ovo nije u redu”…
Vidio sam oba benda i mislim da su dosadni. Slažem se. Kada vidiš bend poput Pixiesa i poznaješ sve njihove pjesme i već si pomalo umoran od njih i onda ih oni odsviraju na isti način na koji su ih snimili…to ne zvuči nimalo svježe.

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Da li najviše uživaš u sviranju uživo?
Na, neki način, da. Naravno. Taj “high” ne iskusiš od ostalih dijelova glazbenog procesa. Uvijek govorim kako su moji najdraži trenuci, sami počeci jam sesija kada ne skladamo pjesme, već samo jamamo. Taj dio je uvijek uzbudljiv. Nakon toga, svirati te pjesme uživo je predivan osjećaj.

Kada sam vas prvi puta doživjela uživo, na Summercase festivalu u Madridu, mislim da je bilo negdje oko 2, 3 ujutro i bila sam super umorna i pospana i na putu prema doma, kada mi je netko rekao “Ne, moraš ostati i vidjeti ovaj bend!” i vi ste stupili na pozornicu i ostala sam totalno hipnotizirana.
Da, to je bio jako dobar show!

Oh, ti se sjećaš upravo tog nastupa?
Nekih se sjećam, a nekih ne. Obično se sjećam da li smo bili jako dobri ili da li smo bili iznimno loši, ali sjećam se da je taj nastup bio jako dobar.

Da li se sjećaš nastupa u Zagrebu jer smatram da je to isto bio vrlo dobar nastup?
Mislim da smo bili poprilično dobri. Sjećam se. Ne znam jesmo li bili fenomenalni, ali znam da nismo bili loši.

Bili ste jako dobri.
Oh, super! (smijeh)

Da, samim time ljudi imaju jako velika očekivanja…
Da, da, naravno…(širok osmijeh)

Na turneji ste sa novim albumom. Možeš li opisati zvuk albuma?
Mislim da je ovo prirodan album nasljednik prijašnjeg albuma. Mislim da su neke stvari sazrijele i snažnije su, bogatije i dublje. Mislim da je i “catchier”, ali na neki način i mračniji i originalniji.

Osjećate li pritisak zbog fenomenalnih kritika i hype-a koji ste dobili?
Ponekada, da. Sa zadnjim albumom bilo je vrlo lagano jer smo imali jako mnogo loših kritika za album prije toga, tako da smo znali što trebamo popraviti, a sa ovim albumom situacija je bila više kao “oh, sretni smo sa zadnjim albumom, što da popravljamo?”. Bilo je to zbunjujuće iskustvo…kada počinješ pisati osjećaj je kao “oh, fuck! Što sada?”, nakon što odsviraš prvi akord – što da radiš? Pokušaš se izgubiti i čekaš što ćeš pronaći.

Da li posjećuješ glazbene forume i čitaš komentare na vašu glazbu?
Ne, ne radim to. Jednom kada izađe album i ljudi su napisali svoje prve “dostupno za klanje” recenzije, provjerim reakcije, ali nakon toga više ne čitam komentare jer te to izludi.

Da li te deprimira kada ljudi postanu “zločesti”?
Da, radi se o mojim osjećajima. Ne sviđa mi se to. (napravi tužnu facu)

Da li kritika može biti konstruktivna?
Ako svi govore “ovo”, razmisliš o tome i pokušaš to prihvatiti, ali ako se radi o jednom tipu koji nešto kritizira, onda tome ne pridajem pažnju…

Kako bi opisao vaš glazbeni stil? Dolazite sa punk scene?
Da, da…kada smo započeli, osjećalo smo se kao da stvaramo nešto što je potpuno novo, nitko nije radio to što smo mi.

Da li se i dalje tako osjećaš?
Ne. (smijeh) Nakon toga, svi su počeli raditi ono što smo i mi i nazivati to “disco punk” i neko vrijeme smo se pokušavali boriti protiv toga i objašnjavati naš stil, ali sada nam je svejedno.

Mislim da je vrlo teško i nepotrebno etiketirati glazbu. Danas svatko miješa sve moguće stilove.
Da, slažem se. Mislim da je naš posao premašiti žanr. Uvijek koristim primjer glama – Bowie, T.Rex, Roxy Music, Gary Glitter….Mislim, svi ti bendovi zvuče totalno drugačije jedno od drugih, ali opet su svi dio jednog glazbenog žanra.

…sve je glam…
…i tu još ima stotine sličnih glam bendova koji zvuči totalno jednako…

…ili primjer Seattle grungea…
Točno…naš je posao da pritišćemo izvan našeg žanra i učinimo ga nečim većim i mislim da upravo to radimo. Ne mislim da je to uobičajeno.

Da li te, u posljednje vrijeme, neki bend oborio sa nogu? Što najviše slušaš?
Najviše…hmmm…NAJVIŠE…Slušam 5 do 6 albuma svaki dan tako da pokušavam biti u koraku sa novim izdanjima. Mislim da sam danas slušao Ariel Pinkov album, ali samo polovicu, tako da ćemo još vidjeti koliko puta ću ga ponovno svirati.

Ne postaneš opsjednut jednim bendom, albumom?
Kada stvarno volim neki album, najvjerojatnije ću ga poslušati 10 -11 puta. To je moje “opsjedanje”, ali obično se brzo prebacim na nešto novo.

Kako se osjećaš kada bendovi poput Radioheada sviraju vašu glazbu i tako vas stave u centar medijske pozornosti?
To je totalna čast. Ta je priča, u stvari, baš smiješna jer postoji pjesma na zadnjem albumu, Bend Over Beethoven, oko koje smo si ja i producenti razbijali i razbijali glavu i svađali se oko nje i sto puta ju snimali i kada je album konačno bio gotov, nazvao sam producente i rekao “Moramo završiti Bend Over Beethoven” i oni su totalno poludjeli! Nekoliko mjeseci nakon što je izašao album, netko mi je poslao email “Hey, Thom Yorke je svirao vašu pjesmu Bend Over Beethoven na BBC-u” i nazvao sam producenta i rekao “Pogodi što!?”. Bio je tako uzbuđem jer kao i ja voli Radiohead. Tako da…

…sav taj trud je bio nagrađen?
Da…isplatilo se…

( upozoravaju nas da nam je preostala jedna minuta razgovora )

Oh, čovječe, jedna minuta, jedna minuta…Mrzim to! To me uvijek čini tako nervoznom, kada mi kažu da imam još jednu minutu. “Što da pitam? Što da pitam?” i onda mi mozak jednostavno stane.
(smijeh) Pa…možeš me pitati 4 pitanja i ja ću ti dati najzanimljiviji odgovor.

…ili da te možda ostavim na miru i iskoristim to vrijeme da ti predam LP jednog hrvatskog benda koji mi se sviđa?
Oh, cool! To bi mi se sviđalo!
(proučava lp) …emendex?

Ustvari, Hemendex…navodno je to način na koji bosanski “restorani” speluju “ham and eggs” na njihovim jelovnicima. To je…ummm….balkanizirana riječ.
(smijeh) cool…Reci im – Hvala.

Hvala TEBI i želim vam super nastup večeras!



Original version:

Hello…seems like “interview rush hour”…is it freaky for you, to have interviews like that?
Nic: Umm…no, not really. I'm used to this, actually. You wouldn’t believe what they do to me…I did 12 hours of interviews, like straight.

Where did that happen, in Japan?
Nic: In Berlin, actually. In Japan you do days and days of interviews. We had 4 days in a row of just doing interviews.

This is your second time in Zagreb, what are your impressions?
Nic: Yeah…I tried to walk around this afternoon. I tried to get lost…

You tried to get lost or did you get lost?
Nic: laughs No, no…it's good to get lost. I wanted to because usually you just end up seeing all the tourist places in all the cities you go to, so you have to go and walk away from them.

Ah, right…so you wanted to see the ugly and the dirty of Zagreb?
Nic: Exactly!

Good thing is, in Zagreb, you don’t have to walk much to see that.
Nic: *laughs* Yeah, I actually saw a bum.

Are festivals a great chance to see other bands?
Nic: I just go here tonight but I'm hoping to see Billy Idol.

I was just talking to Rise Against about them feeling excited to see him perform!
Nic: I told my sound guy last night “It's Billy Idol!”. It’s a pretty big deal. I'm sure he will probably be cheesy and stuff but I believe he is one of these guys who will still want to put on a good show.

You think so?
Nic: Yeah, i do… we will see, we will see… if you see me after the gig, we can review it.

Ahh, cool…sounds like a cool idea. I'm kind of afraid it will be like with bands i saw at Primavera this year, like The Fall and The Pixies and there was this feeling of “nooo, why?”, just a feeling of “this is wrong”…
Nic: i have seen both of these bands and I think they were boring. I agree. It's like you see a band like Pixies and you know all these songs and you are already kind of tired of them and then they play it exactly the way it was recorded and they don’t feel fresh.

Is playing live something you enjoy the most?
Nic: In a way, yes. Definetly. There is a high you don’t get from other parts of the musical process. I always say my favorite parts of playing are the very first beginnings of the jam sessions when we are not writing but just jamming. That part is always exciting. Then, again, playing those songs live is very exciting.

The first time I saw you was in Madrid at the Summercase festival, i think it was like 2, 3 AM and i was super tired and sleepy and bound to go home and someone told me “No, you have to stay and see this band” and you came on and I was completely mesmerized.
Nic: Yeah, that was a really good show. That was a great one.

Oh, you actually remember the show?
Nic: Some I do and some I don’t. I usually remember if we were really good or if we really sucked but I do remember that show as being really good.

Do you remember your gig in Zagreb, cause I thought you put on a really great show aswell?
Nic: I thought we were pretty good. I do remember it. I don’t know if we were awesome but I know we didn’t suck.

You were really good.
Nic: Oh, great!*laughs*

Yeah, so many people have these great expectations of your gig tonight…
Nic: Yeah, yeah, of course…*wide grin*

You are touring the new record. What does it sound like?
Nic: It feels like a natural next record after the last one. It feels like certain things have matured and are stronger, richer and deeper. I feel like it's catchier but also in some ways darker and more original.

Do you feel pressured because of the great reviews and hype you get?
Nic: Sometimes, yeah. With the last record it was very easy because we had a lot of bad record reviews with the one before so we knew what we needed to fix and with this one it was like – “oh, we were happy with the last record so what do we need to fix?” It was kind of confusing…when you start writing its kind of like “oh fuck!now what?”, after you strum the first chord – what do you do? You just try to get lost and see what you find.

Do you read about yourself on music forums?
Nic: I don’t. Once when the record comes out and there are the first “on slaughter” reviews, I check but then I don’t anymore because it drives you crazy.

Does it bum you out when people get nasty?
Nic: Yeah, its my feelings, I don’t like it. makes a sad face

Can criticism be constructive?
Nic: If everyone is saying “this “ you think about it and try to take it in but if there is one guy saying something I don’t pay it attention…

How would you describe your music style? You come from the punk scene?
Nic: Yeah, yeah… when we started we felt like we are creating something completely new, nobody was doing what we were doing.

Do you still feel that way?
Nic: no, laughs after that, everyone started doing what we were doing and calling it “disco punk” and for a while we tried to fight it and explain our style but now we just don’t care.

I think it's very hard and unneccessary to label music these days. Everyone is mixing up styles these days.
Nic: Yeah, I agree. I think it's your job of transcending the genre. I always use the example of glam - Bowie, T. Rex, Roxy Music, Sparks, Gary Glitter. I mean, all these bands sound completely different from eachother and yet they are all part of one music genre.

…all glam…
Nic: …and there are hundreds of generic glam bands too who sound exactly the same…

…or the example of Seattle grunge…
Nic: Exactly…so it's your job to press outside your genre and make it something greater and I think we do that. I don’t think it's typical.

Has some band sweeped you off your shoes lately? Who do you listen to the most?
Nic: The most…hmm…THE most…I listen to 5- 6 albums every day so I do try to keep up with the new releases. I think I listened to Ariel's Pink album today but only half of it so we will see how many times I will play it over again.

You don’t obsess over music?
Nic: When I really like an album I will probably listen to it like 10-11 times. Those are my main repeated ones but I'm usually on to something new.

What do you feel about bands like Radiohead playing your music and putting you into the media spotlight like that?
Nic: That is totally an honor. It was very funny because there was this song on the last record, Bend Over Beethoven that me and the producers just thought about it and thought about it and argued and recorded it a hundred times and the record was done and I call them and say “We gotta finish Bend Over Beethoven and they went nuts. It was the funniest thing. Months after the record came out somebody sent me an email “Hey, Thom Yorke played your song Bend Over Beethoven on BBC” and i call the producer “Guess what!?” and he was so excited because he loves Radiohead, and so do I. So…

…all the work was rewarded?
Nic: Yeah…it was worth it…

( we get warned that we have one minute left )

Oh, man, one minute, one minute… I hate that! Makes me so nervous when they tell me that. It's like - what do I ask , what do I ask and my mind goes blank.
Nic:*laughs* Well…you can ask me 4 questions and I give you the most interesting answer.

….or maybe I leave you alone and take this time to give you an LP of this croatian band i like.
Nic: Oh, cool I'd love that!

looks at the lp cover.…emendex?

Yeah, Hemendex, actually…apparently it's how the bosnian “restaurants” pronounce ham and eggs, on their menus. It's…ummm…a balkanized word.
Nic: laughs cool…Tell them - Thank you.

Thank YOU and have a great gig tonight!